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Title: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 10-01-18, 11:56PM
How does everyone feel about the company ending the option of paper payslips from April 2018 forcing everyone to view their pay online?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: KAZ on 11-01-18, 12:30AM
What?????????? >:(
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-01-18, 02:07AM
banks and utility companies still give you the option. i think its a disgrace. f***ing ar**h*les  >:(. whatever happened to freedom of choice?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: weebee on 11-01-18, 02:44AM
Refuse to go online to see mine
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Welshie on 11-01-18, 02:46AM
First I've heard of it , I'm paperless anyway but by choice , wouldn't have wanted it forced upon me 😠
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Flatout on 11-01-18, 07:21AM
Tesco need to sort their payslips out before going paperless. At very least it should show hours paid and dates.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: RubyRed on 11-01-18, 07:25AM
I had paper so I’ve had mine online from the outset. My husbands company has had online payslips only for several years. I guess It’s Inevitable and the way forward for Tesco too.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: chris9997 on 11-01-18, 08:02AM
Not sure they can stop paper payslips, if you don't have internet you will never see it,they could install some sort of terminal in the staff room to just visit Tesco sites and payslipview.
Also would be a headache for mm ( hello mr manager went to the bank today pay was wrong manager : show us your pay slip staff: can't get it no internet? What to do then.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: claden on 11-01-18, 08:02AM
I work with someone who has no internet how would they are their wage slip? Where has this information come from?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 11-01-18, 08:38AM
It's come down on Comms Centre for attention of people manager. It's also being discussed on Yammer.

My concern is the IT can't cope with the limited number who currently use it how will it cope when everyone has to....
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: spike_pkh on 11-01-18, 08:49AM
I think it's a great idea.  The amount of money and time wasted by managers giving out payslips is ridiculous.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 11-01-18, 08:59AM
The amount of paper which lies about Tesco offices with peoples confidential details is ridiculous.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Peppa17 on 11-01-18, 09:05AM
I would imagine that this is all inline with Oracle launch.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 11-01-18, 09:48AM
Can anybody who thinks it is a good idea explain how those with out internet access and/or a printer proceed when they need x amount of past pay slips to satisfy a financial institution when trying to set up a new financial arrangement/loan/mortgage etc
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: bootsdaroff on 11-01-18, 09:53AM
It should never be happening. More people than you think don’t have internet or can cope with a laptop or tablet. Let’s believe who ever gets a wage slip on time. Used to get two or three at a time because the managers were hopeless at giving them out.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: just curious on 11-01-18, 10:14AM
I think it's a great idea.  The amount of money and time wasted by managers giving out payslips is ridiculous.

" Time Managers waste giving out wage slips "  :D :D ;D ;D ,  Its not nearly as much time as they waste doing lots of nothing that's  unimportant or they spend in the Costa area / canteens / offices etc . A decent manager would want to meet there staff with a wage slip and thank them for there work once a month .  ;) ;) .
I personally would be hounding a manager to give me internet access in store linked to a store printer and asking them to personally print me a copy of my wage slip off in my working time not my own unpaid time .
Perhaps solution to your problem if your to busy  " managing "  is to get the pointless manager to dish the wage slips out that way the pointless manager gets a little bit of something constructive to do and also gets the chance to personally meet all members of staff where staff can air any concerns / issues / gripes etc .  ;) :D ;D.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: theboss on 11-01-18, 11:16AM
Fact it's an option and it's not being forced on you, not confirmed as yet.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Pooch100 on 11-01-18, 12:15PM
I hate to tell you but as of April 2018 the company will no longer be producing paper payslips and that is fact......... the PMs got told yesterday.
One of the things they were told!!  ;D
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: GasMonkey on 11-01-18, 12:42PM
No doubt that will be another staff announcement that we on the shop floor will never find out about
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Iron Giant on 11-01-18, 01:30PM
Ourtesco.com and the old handbook says we have the option of paper or online. As this surely forms part of the terms and conditions of our employment can they make this decision without consultation?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 11-01-18, 01:30PM
If this does transpire then I suggest employees request access and means at work to view/print their pay slip, in privacy of course.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Peppa17 on 11-01-18, 02:07PM
I think the plan with oracle is that the store have access to tablets/iPads for teams to use. Maybe if a trial store or someone that knows more about oracle is on here they could shed some light?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 11-01-18, 02:33PM
My bigger concern is very few people use the system at the moment and yet it still can't cope on payday. Seeing as the people who have already signed up are more than likely the most tech savvy employees can you imagine the frustration of some of our colleagues in just accessing the system to  find out why they were paid what they were.

Is the hope people won't check thereby allowing any potential error to go unnoticed.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: stockrotateman on 11-01-18, 04:43PM
 :thumbup: spot on, how often do employees find they haven't been paid overtime or holiday pay or find unknown deductions to there wages, unless slips can be printed off with employees permission in store, then this favours the managers and Tosca in general.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: spike_pkh on 11-01-18, 05:36PM
Can anybody who thinks it is a good idea explain how those with out internet access and/or a printer proceed when they need x amount of past pay slips to satisfy a financial institution when trying to set up a new financial arrangement/loan/mortgage etc

When one of our colleagues needed some pay slips printed off he asked one of our managers and they both went to office and got it using stores computers
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Gorgonzola on 11-01-18, 06:19PM
temised pay statement.
(1)
An employee has the right to be given by his employer, at or before the time at which any payment of wages or salary is made to him, a written itemised pay statement.
(2)
The statement shall contain particulars of—
(a)
the gross amount of the wages or salary,
(b)
the amounts of any variable, and (subject to section 9) any fixed, deductions from that gross amount and the purposes for which they are made,
(c)
the net amount of wages or salary payable, and
(d)
where different parts of the net amount are paid in different ways, the amount and method of payment of each part-payment.
Employment Rights Act 1996
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: CoffeeGate on 11-01-18, 06:34PM
Managers have only been able to access online slips for a while now, to be honest im not surprised if this is true, Tesco will no doubt spin it as 'saving the environment' by reducing paper or something along those lines.
I for one prefer being able to view online but 100% understand there is a large portion of the workforce who wouldn't know how to access them. I foresee queues a mile long on the day before payday as people form a line for their manager to download and print off a payslip for them.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 11-01-18, 07:50PM
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/payslips-whats-the-law.157546/ (http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/payslips-whats-the-law.157546/)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: kaled78 on 11-01-18, 08:06PM
be intresting to see what happens to the books of c**ppy vouchers they give you each month if this rolls out
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 12-01-18, 10:40AM
I believe by what I have read that to 'roll it out' the minimum they would need to provide is the means in store, or elsewhere, to view and print them out.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Jerrymouse on 12-01-18, 10:54AM
Im new to Tesco and so got first pay today but no payslip, I've sent there is a tesco onsite payslip site but it does not recognize my 4 digit employee card off clocking in card

Where do I find employee code if I never get to see first payslip?

thanks
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: cityboy on 12-01-18, 11:47AM
Jerrymouse, I've worked at Tesco for a long time, and I can't answer your questions, but ask an experienced colleague to help you, if they don't know themselves, they will find out, I can assure you of that. Otherwise, ask your Union Rep.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Morris999 on 12-01-18, 12:07PM
Jerrymouse, payslips are often a couple of days late, so if they are not instore today they have normally arrived by Monday.
Regarding online payslips, to access this you actually need your paper payslip, whereas there will be a code at the bottom which will allow you access to it!
I believe this code changes every payslip until you actually use it.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Monkeymagic on 12-01-18, 05:58PM
What a fuss about not having a payslip, maybe we should reopen the small windows where you can have cash passed through in a small envelope, for those of us not in the 21st century yet😀
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: GasMonkey on 12-01-18, 06:21PM
@Monkeymagic And what happens if you need to produce payslips from previous months for something like a bank loan , mortgage ?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 12-01-18, 06:45PM
no one will be able to get a mortgage at tesco with all the low hour flexi work
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: GasMonkey on 12-01-18, 06:52PM
@Weed And that is incorrect
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 12-01-18, 07:30PM
or should i say you wont be able to get a half decent amount.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 12-01-18, 08:52PM
What a fuss about not having a payslip, maybe we should reopen the small windows where you can have cash passed through in a small envelope, for those of us not in the 21st century yet😀

Which quiet often had your pay details on one side, but why stop there just give out 2 packets of rice, parsnip, leek and a jar of value sauce  8-)  :P
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: penguin on 12-01-18, 09:09PM
be intresting to see what happens to the books of c**ppy vouchers they give you each month if this rolls out


Voucher booklets will continue to be issued on payday as usual after this change, despite what people think the books and payslips are not printed in the same place.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: David1 on 13-01-18, 07:18AM
I don't usually comment but online payslips are common in many industries/businesses.
You can log on and review previous payslips usually for 12 months but some employers allow a longer period.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lucgeo on 13-01-18, 07:57AM
What a fuss about not having a payslip, maybe we should reopen the small windows where you can have cash passed through in a small envelope, for those of us not in the 21st century yet😀

Royal Mail still pay their employees weekly, and they post their wage slips to their addresses weekly. 21st century, big corporation  ;)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Monkeymagic on 13-01-18, 08:48AM
What a fuss about not having a payslip, maybe we should reopen the small windows where you can have cash passed through in a small envelope, for those of us not in the 21st century yet😀

Royal Mail still pay their employees weekly, and they post their wage slips to their addresses weekly. 21st century, big corporation  ;)

Maybe so, I’m kind of making a comparison when we used to be paid cash weekly then overnight practically were told ‘oh, now you’ll be 4 weekly paid into your bank’. Just had to deal with it, (did you notice the TRUMP tone😆)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 13-01-18, 10:02AM
I don't usually comment but online payslips are common in many industries/businesses.
You can log on and review previous payslips usually for 12 months but some employers allow a longer period.

Hello David1

How's the payslip looking.

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Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Chojac2412 on 13-01-18, 12:24PM
I object to having to print out own payslip. When the option first came in they said that they would put a terminal in every store so we could print one out if needed but that never happened. I object to paying for the ink and paper. Not everyone is set up to print from home, even if online, not everyone has a printer.
I think the company need to look at the whole print thing. We get lovely colourful briefs come down in block colour but has anyone ever told those in the ivory towers that we never print in colour from store. Even though we don't print in colour it is still using black ink and often a total waste of paper with just a heading on one page with block colour. With the amount of communications that come down daily this all adds up.
The payslips have block blue colour. The communications have block colours. I understand how things stand out more if presented like this but we only need the detail. I know that a print only version can be found for many things online but last time I looked, I must admit this was years ago, a print only version was not available but even if it was would this be clear to the majority.
We can claim a small bit of tax relief for washing our own unifirms, can we also claim if we now need to print our own payslips.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Blackcat3 on 13-01-18, 03:30PM
Jerrymouse you need your employee no which is 8 digits to register for online payslips I think
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Loki on 14-01-18, 08:22AM
Interesting ....

http://www.f2ol.co.uk/blog-post/can-employers-lawfully-provide-electronic-payslips-instead-of-printed-paysl (http://www.f2ol.co.uk/blog-post/can-employers-lawfully-provide-electronic-payslips-instead-of-printed-paysl)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 14-01-18, 11:54AM
Very interesting, good find.  The right to a written/printed payslip on or prior to being paid seems undeniable.  At the very least the employer would need to provide those who are without PC and/or printer a private area at their place of work to view/print their payslip, and probably also including those who do not wish to use their own home equipment and/or materials for what ever reason(s), at the least not without some compensation for wear and tear or consumables.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: stockrotateman on 14-01-18, 12:17PM
On the wage slip site, every time the page is opened it comes up with the do you want to keep printed wage slips or not then asks for your choice. Anyone with a bank account or utilities accounts are always being prompted to go paperless, which is the individuals choice, bringing this in Tosco without giving employees a choice of yes or no is asking for trouble,in the event of an employee going to a tribunal to resolve a pay dispute and explaining the problems of obtaining a printed wage slip which Loki points out the employers must provide.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: cosmosmallpiece on 14-01-18, 04:41PM
Looks like they are going to do it  brief has come down .
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 14-01-18, 04:47PM
Is the brief now available for the new financial year?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 14-01-18, 06:26PM
Very interesting, good find.  The right to a written/printed payslip on or prior to being paid seems undeniable.  At the very least the employer would need to provide those who are without PC and/or printer a private area at their place of work to view/print their payslip, and probably also including those who do not wish to use their own home equipment and/or materials for what ever reason(s), at the least not without some compensation for wear and tear or consumables.
(1)
An employee has the right to be given by his employer, at or before the time at which any payment of wages or salary is made to him, a written itemised pay statement.
(2)
The statement shall contain particulars of—
(a)
the gross amount of the wages or salary,
(b)
the amounts of any variable, and (subject to section 9) any fixed, deductions from that gross amount and the purposes for which they are made,
(c)
the net amount of wages or salary payable, and
(d)
where different parts of the net amount are paid in different ways, the amount and method of payment of each part-payment.

Employment Rights act 1996 ,

The key word is (written ) It does not say it has to be printed ,,

My understanding is that they could E mail it to you , send it in a tex form ,or any electronic way so long as it is in a written form ,

A friend  That works for a HR firm says that any company that sets up a system in which you have to log on with a password set up by your self is complying with the act ,  since it also covers the data protection act .

Another thing I was thinking about was , Has the Union As part of the collective bargaining agreed to this ? if they have then would anyone have any ways to complain about it ?,

I my self remember getting my first wage in a brown packet with total pay then minus tax =net pay and that was it  8-)




Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 14-01-18, 06:43PM
Managers have only been able to access online slips for a while now, to be honest im not surprised if this is true, Tesco will no doubt spin it as 'saving the environment' by reducing paper or something along those lines.
I for one prefer being able to view online but 100% understand there is a large portion of the workforce who wouldn't know how to access them. I foresee queues a mile long on the day before payday as people form a line for their manager to download and print off a payslip for them.

My better half says she has been getting my pay slips on line for at least 10 years if not longer ,
as to the mile long queues ,, Since the pay slip will only go into your wage box and only you will have the pass word , the manager will not be able to help,
or will do so only as a one off ,
and by the way You must be in the only store that has so many staff that you could form a queue a mile long , lucky you ... ;D
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 14-01-18, 07:31PM
notsofunny, what is your solution for those employees who do not have a PC and/or do not have internet is  :question:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/write (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/write)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 14-01-18, 08:03PM
Most have phones that do connect up to the Internet, as well as work computers , I am sure a manger will allow someone to get on line in store ,
Then do what i do for those few that are older than me, Buddy up with someone to get them connected up ,

Just read that in 2016 89% of housholds had Internet conection , that does not include those that have accses at work, or on the phone ,

My only solution is to get on with it , changes happen , just look at the way pensions and other benifits get paid, as well as having to apply for jobs ,getting a new passport form, bording pass for flights list is endless ,

I personely think that its not a matter of someone not having Internet conection , Its more about being scared of change , I hated having to put my pin into use my credit CARD , I hated it when a was forced to use self serv ,

I also think that this is the best thing that can happen to those that are scared to use Internet  , this will open a new window to them ,
This will all work out fine for every one, so long as we all help out , And reason i say WE , is that i dont hold out much faith with the company doing so , :(

Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: alf on 14-01-18, 09:36PM
notsofunny, what is your solution for those employees who do not have a PC and/or do not have internet is  :question:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/write (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/write)

If you're using that logic, the current paper payslips we receive aren't "written".
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 14-01-18, 11:25PM

Alf its not my Logic ,

Its what the 1996 act says , so if you want to split hairs about it then please feel free to do so ,
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: alf on 15-01-18, 12:04AM
I wasn't replying to you, hence why I quoted nomad.

But for clarity, I'm merely pointing out the faulty logic in dismissing the legitimacy of electronic payslips due to them not being "written", as our current paper payslips are not "written".

Of course this is all rather redundant as the governments own website clarifies that electronic payslips are totally permissible, Employers can choose whether they provide printed or electronic (online) payslips.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 15-01-18, 02:03AM
sorry :'(
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: TheOLDone on 15-01-18, 02:14AM
Did you know noodles sales were down in China last year ? Bad times !!
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Gorgonzola on 15-01-18, 06:07AM
Alf
On which government website does it state that employers can choose between electronic and paper?
Thanks
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: dairyfresh on 15-01-18, 07:50AM
https://www.gov.uk/payslips (https://www.gov.uk/payslips)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 15-01-18, 09:57AM
From the link, the employer has to provide a payslip, it can be printed or electronic (online).

In the case of electronic if employee has no internet access then they have not provided them with one.  There is no mention of any responsibility being on the employee to obtain it anyway they can, they have to be given/provided with a payslip, and they should be able to obtain it in complete privacy.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Ronnie on 15-01-18, 09:58AM
I don't mind but I do know half a dozen people who will
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: rogersmart on 16-01-18, 02:27PM
Oh for goodness sake - what a load of fuss about nothing!  Accessing your payslip online is so easy and as others have said you can do it on your phone so you don’t need a computer.  In any case you don’t need to print them out - download a copy each time and save it on your phone/tablet/computer.  It’s all so much more convenient than paper. 

The other thing that you moaners are missing completely is that it’s in all our interests for Tesco to make itself as efficient as possible - lower operating costs = more cash to spend on staff.  Why would any of us want our employer to spend money if it can be avoided? 

You moan about paper payslips being hard to understand; you moan about paper payslips arriving late; you moan about everything!  In the meantime, those companies like Amazon that have completely locked in to the online world are marching into the future with Tesco in danger of being left behind.  Just get real.  As I have said before - if you have such little regard for Tesco then go and work somewhere else.  End of Rant!
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: bootsdaroff on 16-01-18, 04:05PM
Oh we have another company man/woman in our midst. Sorry some of us are not as computer literate as yourself. Rant over
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 16-01-18, 04:18PM
I agree. Whilst to many 20 some things the thought of going online & downloading & saving something is dead simple; I have a number of colleagues who struggle with anything online. Yes the future probably is online and yes it probably is cheaper but surely we should as a company recognise that not everyone is computer literate

Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: just curious on 16-01-18, 04:41PM
Oh for goodness sake - what a load of fuss about nothing!  Accessing your payslip online is so easy and as others have said you can do it on your phone so you don’t need a computer.  In any case you don’t need to print them out - download a copy each time and save it on your phone/tablet/computer.  It’s all so much more convenient than paper. 

The other thing that you moaners are missing completely is that it’s in all our interests for Tesco to make itself as efficient as possible - lower operating costs = more cash to spend on staff.  Why would any of us want our employer to spend money if it can be avoided? 

You moan about paper payslips being hard to understand; you moan about paper payslips arriving late; you moan about everything!  In the meantime, those companies like Amazon that have completely locked in to the online world are marching into the future with Tesco in danger of being left behind.  Just get real.  As I have said before - if you have such little regard for Tesco then go and work somewhere else.  End of Rant!

I love your second paragraph about it being in our interest for Tosco to make itself as efficient as possible - lower operating cost = more money to spend on staff .  :) :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D .
I think you need to go to the in store Costa coffee area if you have one and smell the aromas ( if you can afford a Costa on Tosco wages even buy a cup ) , and then have a good long think about when Tosco ever spent anything on staff other than the bare essentials and necessities .   ??? 8-)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 16-01-18, 04:55PM
@rogersmart: "lower operating costs = more cash to spend on staff"

I think you must have had your tongue in cheek with that line  ??? however best laugh I've had in a while  ;D  I did consider, as an Admin,  moving your entire post to the joke thread.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 16-01-18, 07:11PM
Save the rain forest!
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: just curious on 16-01-18, 07:37PM
@ Pilot

Tell head office to save the rain forest ( and lower operating cost  ;) :D :D ;D ;D ) , by not printing duplicate shelf edge labels , team five memos , promotion end copy's , and endless other pieces of useless junk that get printed / duplicated unnecessarily daily in every store .  :-X :-X
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 16-01-18, 07:48PM
@ Just Curious

I would if I could but trying to get through to the Senior Team at Tesco can be difficult. They are too busy sucking each other off.  >:D

They fire a rifle at you for surrendering!
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lackofinterest on 17-01-18, 01:06AM
@rogersmart: "lower operating costs = more cash to spend on staff"

I think you must have had your tongue in cheek with that line  ??? however best laugh I've had in a while  ;D  I did consider, as an Admin,  moving your entire post to the joke thread.
:thumbup: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lackofinterest on 17-01-18, 01:11AM
@rogersmartarse. your talent as a comedian is wasted working for tosco (-*-)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: tumshie on 17-01-18, 12:29PM
Our dept has just been told that some of the daily bumf that's printed automatically is to be reduced or removed altogether and that this will save X million sheets of paper per day.
I must say, over the last several years, it never crossed our minds that that could be possible.
I wish we had thought of it, as we could have mentioned it to management and action would have swiftly been taken.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: tumshie on 17-01-18, 12:42PM
Think of the time lost to chats with managers and to lowered work rates because of colleagues' general p**sed-offness thanks to the ridiculous way the figures are shown on payslips, and to the many mistakes in them.

When a mistake is queried, the first thing a manager says is "Give me a photocopy", so you have to be able to get a hard copy in that instance.


Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: the rule book on 22-01-18, 10:35AM
Ludicrous, the pay slip borders on illegal. In fact it was illegal and pay outs were made. How many people noticed the company was paying under the minimum wage?

The one and only reason they got away with it for so long is the madness of that pay slip.


If we go paperless how about a weekly on line payslip?
How's that's for radical?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Duff McKagan on 20-02-18, 04:16PM
I’ve now been locked out of my online payslips account, does anyone know who I need to contact to get it unlocked? It says talk to your line manager, personnel manager or complaince manager...all very well but I’m a night worker who never sees the personnel manager...not even sure there is one anymore..rarely see the compliance manager..again..not even sure there is one any more and frankly I’d be wasting my time talking to my line manager. My thought is to talk to the wages clerk..but again I rarely see him...Is there a phone number or email address I can contact someone at?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: minion on 20-02-18, 04:37PM
Just put a note in the post box outside the confidential office and the wage clerk will see it and send a form via workplan to get it reset.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Duff McKagan on 20-02-18, 04:46PM
In all honesty I’m not sure we have a box outside our confidential room...I’ll have to check...our store is..umm..different
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: minion on 20-02-18, 06:08PM
If there's no post box put it in a sealed envelope addressed to the wage clerk and stick it under the door. Worth a try.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: tumshie on 20-02-18, 10:00PM
Maybe there's a pigeon hole for the wage clerk, along with managers' pigeon holes?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: my little pony on 22-02-18, 09:43PM
On your payslip where it says dept there is a letter in brackets. Can anyone tell me what this means. Mine says (D), Thanks.

A friend has the letter (C) What is the difference?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: pitdiver on 24-02-18, 11:32AM
I have been trying to log in to  my on line payslip. It's a pain the arse.  I got in once but when I tried again I got the log in details wrong so now can't get in.  One of the questions asked is what is the colour of your car.  As I don't remember what car I had when I first set it up I don't seem to get this right.

As for a terminal in the store we were told no you will have go to the library and get it printed out there, that's assuming you are a member.  If you are it will cost you 20p to print it out.
 
Then there is an issue with P60s. They are an absolute requirement so you can keep an eye on your tax. My pension providers send me P60s with no question s about an online copy.

I think Tesco need to review this plan.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: mexicopete on 24-02-18, 11:59AM
As for a terminal in the store we were told no you will have go to the library and get it printed out there, that's assuming you are a member.  If you are it will cost you 20p to print it out. Another Tesco you couldn't really make up moment. :( :( :( :( :(
 
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Weed on 24-02-18, 12:51PM
20p f*** Off   (-*-)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 24-02-18, 07:23PM
I have been trying to log in to  my on line payslip. It's a pain the arse.  I got in once but when I tried again I got the log in details wrong so now can't get in.  One of the questions asked is what is the colour of your car.  As I don't remember what car I had when I first set it up I don't seem to get this right.

As for a terminal in the store we were told no you will have go to the library and get it printed out there, that's assuming you are a member.  If you are it will cost you 20p to print it out.
 
Then there is an issue with P60s. They are an absolute requirement so you can keep an eye on your tax. My pension providers send me P60s with no question s about an online copy.

I think Tesco need to review this plan.

No one is going to review this plan ,so its just best we all do it correctly when we log on,
When setting your passwords  tell the truth and pick things like whats you fav Colour  ,whats your best friends name ,,, as being the  reset reminders , those things mostly never change ,,
As to p60  why does your pension providers send you one ? 
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: tumshie on 24-02-18, 08:34PM
Pension provider has to give you your yearly totals of money paid to you, and tax paid, the same as an employer does.

No, no-one is going to review this. Why would Tesco bother?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: pitdiver on 24-02-18, 09:08PM
I know it won't change but it feels good to get it off your chest.  As someone has said Pension Providers have to send a P60.  I have three pensions from previous employers and my wife gets two from previous employers including Tosco
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 25-02-18, 01:19AM

ok so you and your wife are pensioners ? first time i heard you would get p60 from each of them , thanks for that
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 25-02-18, 02:56PM
Anyone else constantly having issues signing in? Been reset twice now and now once again blocked. Seriously I know where I met my wife and the colour of my car.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 25-02-18, 06:30PM
What are you signing in on ? When I do it on my phone and put in answers come up as wrong but when doing on laptop can enter it no problem.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 25-02-18, 08:19PM
My mobile....

Will try a laptop next time
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: pitdiver on 25-02-18, 09:33PM
I'm locked out as well. It says contact personnel. That's funny as I believe our PM has gone
Very interesting All I want to do is reset my password  and have some questions that I can remember the answers to. As what colour isn't car I don't know as I can't remember what carI had when I set the damn thing up. Why does it have to be something that can change.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 25-02-18, 10:32PM
From what i remember you had a choice to make, like I did for what they would ask you for, You must have asked for (what is you car colour ) I decided on what is your fav Colour , so I think you have to blame yourself as to what you get asked.
Also when you get blocked, cant you try again after 10 minutes then 20 minutes 30 minutes ? and when it says contact your Personnel Talk to your Admin.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Welshie on 26-02-18, 08:35AM
My questions are , mothers maiden name and  husbands name , So maybe there was a list ??
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: FarmerFred on 26-02-18, 09:01AM
I think that there's six different questions & you will be asked to answer a different two questions each time.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 26-02-18, 09:35AM
Your answers to the questions can be whatever you choose, they do not have to be truthful, just remembered by you.

Example:
Car colour - pink
Spouses name - Einstein
Mothers name - dracula

 ;)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: astra98 on 03-03-18, 05:47PM
Hi my first post so bare with. I set my husbands online payslip up first time and used specific answers to the questions that he could only know, I also wrote them down as I did them and all worked well, saw his payslip online was working, but when I then logged out and tried to log in using the answers I had just put in it said they were wrong!!! Now we both need new activation codes!! I have also been locked out of Inform, Yammer and Colleague room, all saying I’ve entered wrong password but I know I haven’t, I’ve given up with them but I need a payslip, has anyone else had these issues?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Clyde on 03-03-18, 08:46PM
Hi my first post so bare with. I set my husbands online payslip up first time and used specific answers to the questions that he could only know, I also wrote them down as I did them and all worked well, saw his payslip online was working, but when I then logged out and tried to log in using the answers I had just put in it said they were wrong!!! Now we both need new activation codes!! I have also been locked out of Inform, Yammer and Colleague room, all saying I’ve entered wrong password but I know I haven’t, I’ve given up with them but I need a payslip, has anyone else had these issues?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Emzilli on 03-03-18, 09:47PM
I couldn't even register to view my online payslip so who knows what I am doing wrong! When asked for the activation code, I went to type the one from my recent payslip in and it wouldn't type letters only numbers (or the other way around, I can't remember). I forgot to go back and try again and see what I was doing.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Micky1963 on 17-03-18, 01:15PM
I've just been reading through this thread and the question in my head still appears not to have been answered. I was told by my Manager that on-line payslips & P60's were now obligatory. But when I registered on-line and each time I return, a window comes up asking me to choose whether I want paper payslips & P60's. Is anyone else as confused as me? Is it obligatory or not?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: chris9997 on 17-03-18, 01:34PM
I expect after April that window will disappear
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: frase344 on 17-03-18, 09:58PM
The answers to the questions are all case sensitive.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 18-03-18, 03:11AM
I've just been reading through this thread and the question in my head still appears not to have been answered. I was told by my Manager that on-line payslips & P60's were now obligatory. But when I registered on-line and each time I return, a window comes up asking me to choose whether I want paper payslips & P60's. Is anyone else as confused as me? Is it obligatory or not?

It will update soon to remove that question. Payslips etc have now stopped.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 18-03-18, 03:14AM
I couldn't even register to view my online payslip so who knows what I am doing wrong! When asked for the activation code, I went to type the one from my recent payslip in and it wouldn't type letters only numbers (or the other way around, I can't remember). I forgot to go back and try again and see what I was doing.

The activation code is 4 digit number. If you have never registered before it should be on payslip in the box at bottom aswell it’s not the OTP one with letters and numbers that’s for thecolleagueroom . If it’s not there you need to ask your  wages clerk to send form off and payroll would post you out a new codex
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Micky1963 on 18-03-18, 12:17PM
Has anyone had difficulties logging on "Payslipview" on more than one device? I've registered and logged on with my laptop and then tried to log on with my iPhone and been unsuccessful.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 18-03-18, 04:38PM
Yeh mickey happens to me to
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Gorgonzola on 28-03-18, 02:08PM
Anybody know how to register for online payslips.
I just get a box asking for employee number and password but no way to register?
The one-time registration code from October does not work ???
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 05-04-18, 07:31PM
Anyone else having trouble getting logged in? Says I have got my wives name wrong......
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 05-04-18, 08:38PM
Anybody know how to register for online payslips.
I just get a box asking for employee number and password but no way to register?
The one-time registration code from October does not work ???

use the code on your last pay slip ,,

londoner83 ,,no not having any problems , you sure you only have one wife ? ??? ;) ;) :D

Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: billandben on 05-04-18, 10:32PM
I got on no prob. but my partner could not. It looks like you can only have 1 account per computer. This is a pain as we share the same pc
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Welshie on 05-04-18, 11:01PM
I am logged in on my phone because partner uses laptop for his , it's a pain !
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: gomezz on 05-04-18, 11:07PM
As an ex IT person that is just dumb!  :o
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Spidercatcher on 06-04-18, 03:29PM
Maybe for those with multiple employees within one family using the same computer, clicking the 'this is a public computer' option might help? Dunno, haven't tried it myself but it's worth a try.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: trolleyboy96 on 06-04-18, 04:39PM
Yep via public as I’ve used my work phone to support colleagues today accessing there wageslip.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 06-04-18, 06:38PM
It's ironic it tells you to contact your PM or compliance manger to reset your account. Did the web designer not hear they were made redundant?
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lucgeo on 08-04-18, 11:27AM
Oh ffks I have tried repeatedly to access my payslip for this month!! Used march's activation code, used MY employee number, used MY date of birth, matched the catchpra, and am told I'm denied access and now locked out due to four unsuccessful attempts >:( >:(
Anybody  ??? ???
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: GasMonkey on 08-04-18, 01:29PM
Same here
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lackofinterest on 08-04-18, 01:45PM
typical tesco f*** up as usual. we'll save money, f*** it if it effects staff!! >:(
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Blackcat3 on 08-04-18, 02:50PM
We were told the wages clerks can request a new code for you once CM and PM went
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: helpme on 08-04-18, 04:31PM
Just another way to scam staff. If you can't see your payslip they will do as they please.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Carparkpothole on 10-04-18, 06:13PM
This is getting beyond a joke now, I still can't access my payslip  >:(
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 10-04-18, 06:53PM
Is anyone able to advise on legal remedies available to a colleague unable to get their payslip In breach of their legal right?

If you go on Yammer/OurTesco there are hundreds of people in the same position. The silence from Head Office is deafening
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 10-04-18, 07:59PM
I think that when the law says that employer MUST supply a pay slip (paper or digital) if digital then the onus is on them to get the digital pay slip to the employee, not the employees responsibility to utilise a (troublesome) logging in system.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 10-04-18, 08:51PM
If they made it easy for everyone to log on, without any security , then we would be the first to complain , Even if we have hundreds that are having a problem , we have to find out how many are having a problem due to them for getting the name of the wife or what car they had , as it is hundreds is a drop in the ,,,,,,,,,,, when we have 450k that don't have a problem , don't forget this system is not new , It has been used for some years, I for one cant remember when i last had a paper one , and my wife says its about 7/8/9 years since she has been logging on to look my pay up,,
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 11-04-18, 03:33PM
My point is that the employer must supply a pay slip TO the employee, not merely a way for them obtain it.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 11-04-18, 04:00PM
does anyone think they will go back to paper ? i for one don't think so , and as such its a matter of getting on with it , those that are having problems will one way or the other get it sorted and that will be the end of it , on the positive side less a4 papers printed and left around the canteen along with 450k less envelopes with plastic windows that cant be recycled ,
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Carparkpothole on 11-04-18, 05:22PM
It's the fact that thousands of staff are having problems even though they are entering the 'CORRECT' information that is the isue.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: londoner83 on 11-04-18, 05:32PM
It's also the fact that multiple people have had their passwords reset  3 or 4 times yet are still blocked
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Darth Tosco on 13-04-18, 05:04PM
1 week later and still the same issues.  I can only get as far as typing in the catchphra underneath where to type date of birth, and every time it says incorrect info and locks me out. I've never got as far as choosing security questions.  Guessing our glorious company are in no rush to sort out the technical issues.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: strebor on 13-04-18, 05:17PM
It's been donkeys years since I had a pay slip in an envelope with a plastic window don't think I've ever had one printed on A4 paper lol
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Nomad on 13-04-18, 05:37PM
Seems a test case is needed with regard to digital pay slip availability (or not) as the case maybe.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Chojac2412 on 14-04-18, 08:33AM
The way I understand it is the password that was on your payslip is only good for 28 days so if you did not register by the time the paperless started it wouldn't work. The wages clerk needs to request a new code on the old MyActions system but you have to wait 3-5 days after this has been done before trying to sign in.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Carparkpothole on 14-04-18, 10:08AM
The problem isn't activating it for most people, it's not being able to get back in afterwards.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Chojac2412 on 15-04-18, 07:36AM
The issue in my store is people who have never registered.
Those who have and can't get in are few and far between.
Wages clerk said that, I was surprised but she is helping everyone and she says its not a big issue as the majority are on and sorted. however, we do have a laptop that has been set up and made available to us, along with a printer.
I can see that the printing side of things is the biggest issue. There are loads who have laptops, tablets etc but not always printers.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lucgeo on 17-04-18, 04:48PM
Ok, call me thick.....but I can't find the pay view site I was on last week, with the empl no: d.o.b. activation code and catchpra  ??? ??? Anyone got the link, the one I'm getting isn't associated with tesco??   
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: brucie on 17-04-18, 05:20PM
Lucgeo try the link on the vlh home page on right hand side.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lucgeo on 17-04-18, 07:15PM
Back of the net brucie  :thumbup: many thanks, hope VLH keeps the link going as no way, going by Tescos ability to c**k things up and make the simplest thing extremely difficult, would I find that on my own :(
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: The-shelf-filler on 19-04-18, 03:42AM
I've been using the online payslips since it came out because I got fed up of waiting for my paper one and I've never ever had a problem signing in or even creating my online payslips account.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: gomezz on 19-04-18, 10:34AM
Perhaps people having trouble logging in should tell us what device they are using as that may indicate a common problem.  For example, I am able to log on from the laptop running Windows 8.1 and the IE11 browser.

(for example my Android tablet had / has a habit of adding an extra space to the end when entering a password and you have to remember to delete it)
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Duracell on 19-04-18, 01:14PM
The problem isn't activating it for most people, it's not being able to get back in afterwards.

What I found frustrating is having previously registered I was unable to log on, went through the “See your manager to contact us to get you a new activation code, code sent, yet on returning to the site and putting in my payroll number in, it detects i’m Previously registered so had no facility to input a new activation code !!!

I went back through lots of back up stuff I have to find the original details, hey presto able to get on. I don’t know what would of happened if I hadn’t found original details.

What needs to change is you need to be able to contact them yourself, not go through a manager or clerk, its your private data activation codes and the like should be secure direct to you.

Established new log on details, but what a mess.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: notsofunny on 19-04-18, 05:12PM
Wonder why we cant have a reset E mail sent to us like we have for other on line actions we do, or a code sent to the phone number we use ? that would or should make things easy and stop the need to get everyone involved in some thing that should be simple.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: Carparkpothole on 20-04-18, 05:13PM
Nothing has been done or said about the login problems, the only way to get them to listen could be ACAS.
Title: Re: End paper payslips
Post by: lucgeo on 21-04-18, 10:37AM
Well, anyone else get their payslip through the post this morning?? Got mine with the activation code to log in  ;)